Obama-mania over?? (Indian Context)

Many of our indian frendz were so excited on Obama coming into power ..
now after nearly 5 months of his tenure..
US under obama has been quite ambiguous towards their policy towards India.

On the other hand a pro- pakistan outlook is certainly on US cards again.

So how has the US-India relations shaped up during the last 5 months.
Were there any positive signs.?? (indian context)

I think Obama is anti-india, First he gave huge aid to pakistan(where most of the terrorists live), by which he is indirectly encouraging terrorism and also he is making bad publicity saying india is not safe place to visit.
Then why is hillary is coming to india next month. Tell her to go back as their president said india is not safe place.
Obama is a dick headed person.

Good orators don't impress me. I never liked Obama from the beginning. :|

he was just an hype... ppl who dont know anything abt him were praising him from India and wishing him that he should become US president .
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GoD

Obama mania is over in US also !

And our so called "Indian news channels" are busy covering his antics. I bet the next time they'll show Obama shitting in his toilet in the White House.

firstly is thought he may be good and smart man....
but he proved me wrong....he is fool....and muslim boot licker............
he is Obama bin Laden........

Low IQued Bush was much better

Bush is a hero compared to Barrack Assaama

Bush invaded Irag for Oil
now tht oil is abt to end but Obama dnt hv guts to fight anyone now.. so he begging for friendship frm rich muslim countries.

At the end of the day he will be a big disappointment in US history. Except being black he don't have any other quality to become U.S president.
He is Muslim pro.He is trying to be friend of all anti indian countries, pro indian countries to turn them against us and he wants to make india alone.

i think we shud get close to russia, north korea and others in same category. tab hi thoda darega osama ka bhai obama

Barack Obama is the most over rated head of government in the recent memories of the world.Even after more than 5 months in power he failed to achieve what he intended to.

1)Sanctions of huge monitary funds(TARP) to crisis hit companies which further increased the greediness and heaviheadedness of the CEO’s involved(more than 30% of the bailout were used as bonuses to CEO’s.

2)Granting huge amount of dollars to the Pakistani administration which is surely gonna be used against India following the footsteps of his predecessors.(Even an baby knows that)

3)Failed to contain the growing economic depression which resulted in millions of job cuts.

4)Trying to deceive the muslim world by mere verbal criticism of Israel’s policies.

The Bubble has Burst…….

What are Your Views??? Do You Agree with what Indians Say???

America appeals to China to help stabilize Pakistan: My Views

I posted the same article in that Asian American group and I can't remember if I mentioned it there already, but at first, I had the same perspective as you:

//Also, this may end up being played against the PRC later, as many American will forget that it was the Obama admin along with Pakistani officials themselves that requested help, and they'll think that the PRC is bullying its way into other countries' business. More Sinophobia could follow along with feelings of rivalry.

What do you think of this? Sino-American world police? Chimerican hegemony?// ~Myself

I was thinking that this would be seen as Chinese power projection.

However, I've rethought my position on this matter. You see, China's neighbours don't by into the the "neutral state"/"soft power" image China wants anyway. 

One of the main problems is Taiwan. You see, the most significant states around China: ROC, Japan, South Korea, India, etc, see the PRC as an aggressor state against the ROC. The CCP actually does not have as much control over that as much as the others would think, as Taiwan is symbolic of territorial sovereignty and integrity of the whole of China, and it is used to threaten other regions as well (considering that missiles in range of Taiwan, are well within range of wealthy provinces at risk of going rogue; so even in the event of Chinese unification, the missiles are unlikely to go away IMO). I know you understand that Qiu, because you've mentioned before that the ROC gov't too, has strategies for controlling its population like keeping most of its weapons/power in Taipei. Just like how the US also has its own more subtle tactics for controlling its population. We can understand this, but do you think everyone sees it this way? Even though Taiwan is a special case, it damages the "soft power" image. 

Also, the US military needs the PRC as a visible and formidable "aggressive opponent" for the US for it to justify its budget. That's why you'll hear a lot of "unnamed former US officials" suggesting that cyberattacks *could have* originated from China. And the media exaggerating tiny Chinese fishing ships "bullying" large US naval vessels. Like the Chinese gov't, our own has a lot to gain by exaggerating its "enemies".

Before reading a lot more into the PRC's history and its current position, and paying close attention to both its actions and media, I too had a hard time understanding a lot of its behaviour, and would not have come close to the conclusion you do with it being a "neutral state" with a "spotless reputation". I would have laughed. Even now, it's hardly agreeable to me.

So now that I think about it the PRC has little to lose by projecting its power in a *positive* way, somehow. It's reputation is may be fine to many, but for those who *matter* like the USA, Japan, Korea, ROC, India, etc, it's reputation is piss poor and its history is chaotic and paranoid (albeit, they had their reasons for being paranoid). Currently, it only appears incredibly selfish to many (the many who *matter*, not weak and oppressed African states who couldn't hold a candle even to a single US state.)

The main worries should be:
- hurting Pakistani pride if they take too strong of a role. The article suggests that that may be important to the Chinese, in a cultural way: //"The Chinese may try to deal with this privately," she said. "They won't want to make any public statements that might embarrass the Pakistanis."// ~LA Times
- negative propaganda against them with regards to power projections in South Asia, potentially coming from multiple fronts: USA, India, Japan, Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc. Chinese propaganda is complete shit internationally and barely holds even with mainland Chinese, and even they are skeptics. Also for their size, their PR lobby in Washington is shit.
- attracting too much attention from Taliban, which could turn their attention to Xinjiang, Chinese energy province, at a time when they've invested a lot into energy research and development. Those windmills, for example, are easy targets.
etc...

Those kinds of issues. However, Pakistan is a historic ally to them, and a destabilized Pakistan would be bad for all of South Asia. I do hope something gets done, not necessarily by the Chinese though. I do think that if Washington request an even greater role in Pakistan from them (in supplying and training), it may be effective, as I mentioned in that other thread where I posted your article:

//U.S. officials believe China is skilled at counterinsurgency, a holdover of the knowledge gained during the country's lengthy civil war that ended with a communist victory in 1949.// ~LA Times

//And I don't think it's just because of the civil war, but because of the PRC's authoritarian methods of dealing with even the possibility of insurgency while simultaneously building on the economy (the CCP especially has the history and knows how easy it is to gather up a mob and win a "people's war" through winning the people's hearts [and innocence/ignorance], since that's what they did themselves to win control of China). Also, the PRC already has notable investments in Pakistan (notably the thousands of educated Chinese civilians, engineers/doctors/etc already there to help), and it has the financial means even in this economic crisis.// ~Myself

Satellite Policing?

How long before we begin using Satellites to police our streets? I personally believe it would make for a great investment in the long run. I'd imagine the technology might not be as up to date as one would like, but NASA (and other eggheads) has made miracles happen before. 


A lot of people don't like extra security cameras / big brother type systems because of privacy reasons, but I think that's crap. If you're out in public, then your level of privacy drops.

But could you imagine, someone getting car jacked or mugged. Then the victim describes the incident, address, and time of day. Satellites go through their records and follow the perpetrator to wherever he or she has gone. Obviously this type of thing would be too expensive to for EVERYONE'S crime, but when people find out about it, crime levels would go down. It would have a Superman effect, if people think someone's watching they are less likely to commit a crime.